Right now, the two most unpopular kids in Australia’s Alt-Right are Justin and Lisa Beulah. They have just ‘de-radicalised’ themselves after ratting out their former friends in an act so craven it has us wondering what is their reward. Exposed by left-wing American website Unicorn Riot — who managed to obtain the server data from a closed forum used on a gaming site where in 2017 the couple hobnobbed with what they reckon was the cream of the American Alt-right — they turned dog and snitched on their peers. After that, it was Exit White Power quicker than you could say Schnell!
They didn’t just throw up their hands and cry “guilty”, the couple invited the ABC into their lounge room and recanted their former beliefs before the entire nation; going so far as to advise others how to do the same. Yet, it shouldn’t be such a surprise: by all accounts 27-year-old Lisa (née Sanford) was always considered a troublesome bug and you only need to throw Justin, 23, a cursory glance to figure out that he lacked the mettle to survive in a challenging environment. Indeed, these loony lovebirds instantly gave off the vibe that the first moment any pressure came to bear they’d fall to their knees begging forgiveness and claiming it was others who led them astray. But should nationalists even care? This un-heroic twosome is what we referred to in our mission statement as separating us from conservatives and especially children who run unsupervised through the ideo-political fairground.
Having said, it doesn’t pay to be dismissive either, since the Alt-Right more-or-less operates on our doorstep.
In a cringeworthy interview, the pair answered for “boasting of their connections to the organisers of the deadly Charlottesville rally”. They were also questioned about their role in the Alt-Right’s attempted covert infiltration of the Young Nationals. We have linked to the video. Before the segment even begins the reporter sets the mood with a shot of her playing a recorded phone interview with Justin Beulah. The quote, “I’d say I was one of the premier racists in Australia” lingers purposefully before the intro.
The reporter throws to Lisa Beulah and posits, “So you say that you were a Nazi.”
“Yes, I said that I was a Nazi,” Lisa measuredly answers. The camera captures Justin grinning ironically on the couch while his loopy eyes roll for the viewer. Is it all a joke? No, because as Justin declares, no White nationalist would ever give a serious interview and especially not to the ABC.
Regardless, this, in fact, is the next question asked by the reporter, “How can we know that you’re not trolling all of us?”
It’s pretty clear that these two are publicly retreating from their views. Was it because the media found out their identities or did it have more to do with the fact that ASIO visited them, something both admit to, but which Justin brushes off as an inconsequential encounter in which he was bought a “beer” and probed about any violent persons they should know of?
Moreover, what is the upshot of this all? This wasn’t just an impulsive decision; the couple had obviously been apprised of their situation well in advance and had decided to burn their bridges. Had options been placed on their table?
Were they spooked into this grotesque act of moral contrition in which Justin recounts the process of his ‘radicalisation’ whereby he “started reading extremist material online” while still in high school in 2014, or was it merely the inevitable loss of financial security that comes from being doxed which led them to plead their way back into the system? Justin has the visible manner of a man looking back on his former self with stunned detachment, but is it an act after all; a conscious facsimile?
“Reading that sort of stuff in 2015,” he says, “definitely reinforces your views because that’s when the refugee crisis happened, that’s when terrorist attacks happened.”
Notably, Justin said it reinforces “your” views, rather than ‘reinforced my’, as if it is a general truth and he was merely another unfortunate sucker caught up in the drift net of extremism, but he also characterises the forum’s discourse as “hate”, which is probably right.
That’s an area which needs taking into account, the flimsiness of ideology within the Alt-Right. It is not really anything after all but a species cut-and-pasted from other far-right and nationalist concepts for the purposes, originally, of rebutting conservatism (then known as cuckservatism) which was seen as being politically too fearful and compromised to defend Whiteness. In one of those tendencies of dialectics it’s notable that now those who lean to ‘the Alt-Right’ are just as happy to describe themselves as conservatives, the “cuck” now all but forgotten.
Lacking in ideology, the Alt-Right resorts to jarring the liberal world with its overfondness of National Socialist tropes, which were initially employed ironically, but are now indulged in fetishistically. Thereafter, little more than provocation exists, and its message of Whiteness has gone from what should’ve been a timely assertion for civil rights recognition to a nihilistic chauvinism that ticks all of the opposition’s boxes in their expectations of ‘hate speech’ and racism.
In an edited close-up, Justin expresses the regrets of his time on the forum, ominously confessing, “Every hour of every day is hate – and I purposely filled my mind with as much hate as humanly possible.”
Lisa is far from earnest; she’s leagues away from the timid wifey type that she makes out. For a start, she has four years on her gangly husband, and it’s a good bet that when they dance, she leads.
Firstly, for a woman who’s supposedly repentant for her former views, she blames others for leading her off-track while claiming she just wanted to “fit in”. She alleges to have come from the men’s rights and anti-feminist movements and was a One Nation member who moderated one of PHON’s Facebook pages. It is rumoured that she once converted to Islam and was betrothed as a spare wife to a haji somewhere while living in Asia.
Asked what it was like being a woman in the Neo-Nazi movement Lisa replies, “unkind”. She elucidates, “I remember them saying, ‘Just do as your husband says — you should listen to your male authority’.
“There was a meme – a joke going through – about White Sharia… and that you should wear burkas because you shouldn’t be allowed to be seen or heard. You should just be at home cooking and cleaning and all that sort of stuff.”
But isn’t staying at home cooking and cleaning exactly the full limit of Lisa’s declared ambitions? How can ‘joking’ about what you believe in be ‘unkind’, unless, of course, you’re misrepresenting yourself. And Lisa can be seen in pictures circulating actually wearing a hijab so this makes her even more of a conundrum if she’s speaking honestly.
When the reporter reminded her, “But you were actively trying to recruit women to the movement,” Lisa responded, “I was just trying to find friends who I could talk about baking with.”
Lisa now says she feels ‘bad’ about inducing women into that scene. “I would never wish that on any woman… in any point of time… I would not encourage them to join the movement. I think it’s toxic to women.”
At this point, Justin chimes in, “It’s toxic to everyone…” Then he says to the reporter, “I’ll just ask you something, do I sound like a nice, well-put-together person from those messages from 2017?”
“No,” she says.
Lisa offers up with expectant, dubious emotions, “Do I look like I wanted to do that?”
The reporter doesn’t hesitate in saying, “Yes.”
The pair claims to have experienced their “come to Jesus moment” post-Charlottesville. A woman was killed and 20 ‘anti-racists’ injured when a neo-Nazi ploughed his Dodge Challenger into a crowd of counter-protesters. This was in August of 2017. She told the reporter, “I decided… it was a very negative community. I was like, ‘Why am I here? Like, what am I doing?’ This is not right.”
The trouble is the couple attended a nationalist-organised event in Ballarat in December of 2017. There was no indication from either of their ‘come to Jesus moment’. No attempt was made at an intervention, or any effort expended to reach out to attendees in the name of pursuing their moral salvation.
We don’t say these things to aid the ABC in their efforts to unravel the Alt-Right but in the name of all those who the pair has burned for the sake of saving their own hides.
One of those is Clifford Jennings, who Lisa blamed for becoming involved with the Young Nationals.
Asked why she joined in on the plot to infiltrate the Young Nationals, she responds, “Because he (Clifford) told me that he wanted me to run for a position to fill a seat because I was a woman and I would be able to gain a seat more easily because, and I quote, ‘the woman card’.”
Far from a naïve female being shunted about by a sinister Alt-Right figure, Lisa was well invested in her role. When their scheme was exposed, she anxiously sought any clause that could prevent her from being expelled from the party.
Lisa portrays herself as a confused young woman overwhelmed by the bullish company that she kept, but by all reports, she actively pursued power within the scene. This led to her and Justin being mistrusted, shunned, and eventually blocked from participation in groups. This may well have made their ungracious exit from the Alt-Right much easier and accounted for an element of revenge along the way.
Lisa alleges to have contacted Blair Cottrell about her departure. “I was like, look, this is what happened, and I don’t know why, and to be honest I don’t want anything to do with the movement.”
Yet, why contact Cottrell? What’s his overriding importance? It’s as though his name was requested be added in their renouncement by whoever has come to be handling the couple. Is it an attempt to frame him as the head extremist? It certainly comes across that way.
Still, Justin speaks volumes when he tells the reporter, “The Alt-Right is just a bunch of people talking. It doesn’t matter what platform they’re on, they’re just talking.”
That is a hard fact. So why then do they or any who move in those online circles need to de-radicalise since there is nothing radical happening in the first place. In fact, there is nothing radical about the Alt-Right aside from its confrontational lexicon.
Radicalism would require a complete rejection of the system — a demand for a different type of politics. There would have to be an effort in place to build a structure to replace that system and a willingness to carry out the destruction of the pre-existing model. But instead, we have frog memes and ephemeral pith.
The disingenuousness of the Beulahs and the dogma of their globalist interrogator meet in a propagandistic dance where as long as a fair effort is put into their act of penitence then, while they may not be forgiven, they avoid excommunication; regardless of whether they are ultimately unconvincing. This is unpalatable on more than one level since it proves that both parties represent positions, not the truth. Truth is very much a subjective component which neither the Beulahs nor the media are committed to. Instead, all that’s desired is a pledge; a renouncement that validates one position over the other.
When Lisa tears-up like a crocodile when disclaiming any hatred of Moslems based on her travels to Singapore which changed her worldview it really becomes too much. And it’s just as irksome when Jason, the former Canberra Young Liberal, who’s no doubt going to grovel back to his conservative roots, talks about “going from a normal kid to being radicalised” you get a full sense of the game that is being played.
Factor in ASIO and this visit which Lisa says they can’t talk about and anyone in the know realises they’ve been pretty busy post-Christchurch.
Lisa and Justin are no doubt budding candidates for Exit White Power, to be wheeled out whenever reformed Nazis are needed by the media. They can look penitent for the cameras, urge those in danger of being radicalised that there is still time to get out and reinvent themselves in the eyes of a society that only a couple of months back they thought they had the suss about.
Meanwhile, ASIO’s game continues as they drain the swamp, and discourage any young folk thinking of becoming involved in the Alt-Right. They’re obviously building some sort of case against the likes of Blair Cottrell, which would only serve him right for the damage he’s caused to the proper nationalist movement. But it’s difficult to say that with any heart since they’ve hit proper nationalists hardest; those nationalists who don’t figure in the youth circles or the social media networks they play around on.
Never forget either that the primary shifters in all of this are in the Liberal party. And through their satellites, they’ve managed to poison the stream so that many aren’t even sure what the differences between conservatism and nationalism are. When pressed about her love of Adolf Hitler Lisa leads onto an explanation about how Australia was so much more “economically better in the 1950s”. Yet, this white picket fence fantasy belies the fact that it’s during that time changes to the immigration act were taking place. What’s more, Australia was moving farther away from any hope of independence and becoming involved in Asia; inextricably tied there by Menzies. The next decade would see us embroiled in Vietnam which we sleepwalked into because consumerism had inured the Australian people to politics.
These kids have never really researched Australian life, and are too caught up with the American models of White Nationalism. The American White Nationalist movement brought the regrettable concept of pan-Europeanism which overlooks individual units of the White race in favour of a universal collective. In what amounts to a cultural cringe many of these young Australians from the Alt-Right — born well after the loss of White Australia — prefer to identify as generically European which, in fact, robs them of their actual identity as much as globalism does.
Regardless, the now unpopular newlyweds still have a friend in Jesus. The media can’t take away their “Christian values”, whatever they may be.